Downies Australian Coin Auction #317

We were in Melbourne this last week for four days attending our first full Downies Coin Auction. We’ve visited Downies on many occasions before, attended auction viewings and other Australian public auctions but this was our first full auction attendance at Downies. Auction #317 was the second auction held by Downies this year and comprised nearly 3,500 lots. Types of lots included coins (duh), banknotes, military medals, tokens, agricultural medals, stamps, books, postcards, cigarette cards, and memorabilia such as documents and movie collectables. The auction itself ran from 2pm of the afternoon of Tuesday 8 July and concluded at about 5pm on Thursday 10 July. Lots could be viewed all of last week (30 June to 4 July) and on Monday and Tuesday of the actual auction week. Priority was given to interstate visitors for viewing on the Monday and Tuesday.

We thought it would be good to present our report for this auction in the form of a day by day diary rather than as a simple report. That way we would give people an idea of what it was like to attend an auction of this scale from the eyes of first timers like ourselves.

Day 1 – Monday 7 July

Our flight was due to leave for Melbourne at 6.10am and wouldn’t you know it, our car had a flat battery. I still think of it as a new car but just 3 weeks out of warranty the cold Adelaide winter morning got the better of it. And of course it was blocking our garage preventing us from getting out the spare car! So there we were at 4.30am pushing the dead car down our drive (after failing a reverse jump start) and parking it on the road. The pair of us (and our luggage) were hastily packed into our other vehicle and we dashed for the airport about 15 minutes behind schedule. After parking our car we found the security line snaking all around the terminal and virtually out the door into the dark cold morning. Of course it was, the first day of the school holidays here, not something we’d planned for either. Thankfully the line moved quickly and we arrived at our gate with enough time to spare to take a deep breath and board the plane.

Melbourne Airport Arrival

Melbourne Airport Arrival

The flight itself was smooth and quick but due to congestion we ended up doing circuits of Melbourne airport for nearly as long as the actual flight took and then spent some time on a tarmac waiting for a big A380 super jumbo to land. Regardless, we disembarked, collected our bag, and got straight onto an Airport Express bus and arrived at Southern Cross Station in the Melbourne CBD at around 9.00am. We caught a transfer to our hotel, checked in, gathered ourselves and freshened up before heading to our favourite Melbourne coin store for a couple of hours. We’d decided to do this BEFORE viewing auction lots because it was going to be quick and it’s an easy way of getting into the “coin mood”. After picking up a few coins we headed out for lunch to fuel up and made our way to Downies in the Block Arcade which is on the corner of Elizabeth and Collins Streets. The auction rooms are downstairs from the main arcade with the stairs right by the Elizabeth Street entrance to the arcade.

The viewing room is a brick lined vault-like space set up with an open rectangle of trestle tables and chairs. The tables are decked with desk lamps, auction catalogues, bidder registration forms, and lot viewing forms. To view a lot the viewing form must be filled in with your name and address and in the space provided you must fill in the lot numbers you want to see. Downies staff collect the forms periodically and fetch your lots from storage and mark the form to show that you have received the lot. Once viewed each lot is collected by the staff member and then crossed off your viewing list. Make sure you’ve worked out which lots you want to view BEFORE attending the session because you’ll want to spend all your time looking at lots rather than browsing the catalogue. Also make sure you take your loupe, a pen and notepad, and of course, a drink to keep yourself refreshed. Take notes on each lot you view that you’re going to bid on and don’t be scared to ask for a lot back if you want to look at it again a bit later. We looked at perhaps, 100 lots between 1.30pm and 5:00pm and had to leave at closing time with plans to return the next day.

Day 2 – Tuesday 8 July

After a quick brekkie at “Brown Bagels”, our favourite Melbourne specialist bagel hole in the wall cafe we headed back to the Block Arcade for another viewing session. 9:30am opening time with priority for interstate viewers we were set for another 2.5 hours of solid viewing to get through as many lots as we could. It’s best to take a look at a lot in person than to take a gamble during the auction. Winding up just before midday it was time to have some lunch before the start of the auction.

Just before 2pm bidders flooded into another room underneath the Block Arcade setup with seating and a row of trestle tables at the back with a table up front for the auctioneer and his assistant. We’d already registered to bid but those that hadn’t could do so with the staff out the front and once that was done you are ready to show your hand. Before the actual auction could start the auctioneer had to run though details about the session including lot corrections or withdrawals and bidding rules. We were also warned to turn our mobile phones off or be “fined” during the auction if it rang! We immediately put our phones on silent and took advantage of the free internet available. Strongest prices achieved were the decimal error coins with examples of wrong planchet 10c on 5c errors fetching $2,800 and $2,900 each on $750 estimates to an anonymous phone bidder. Clearance rates in the decimal section was well over 97% with very very few unsold lots (15 unsold/706 lots).

Impressive 1981 2c with Large Straight Clipped Planchet

Impressive 1981 2c with Large Straight Clipped Planchet

Day 3 – Wednesday 9 July

The great thing about an auction with such a broad range of lots is that you can skip entire sessions if the content isn’t your thing. So we took advantage of the militaria, token, medallion, cigarette and sports card section to wander the city checking in on other dealers such as Peter Strich Stamps and Coins who is on the cusp of retirement. After morning tea with our friends from the Numismatic Association of Victoria we grabbed some lunch and headed back for the afternoon proclamation, Australian gold coin, and pre-decimal coin session. One of us had wanted to head back to the auction earlier for the taxidermy section to bid on a stunning lot comprising of stuffed mice fishing off a model yacht but sadly for one author (and happily for the other) we missed out. To the proud new owner one of us hopes they bring you great joy. The other author hopes you don’t get fleas from it.

Highlight of the Taxidermy section -a pair of fishing mice

Highlight of the Taxidermy section -a pair of fishing mice

The afternoon session began with a higher unsold rate than we’d seen the day before but the pre-decimal proof coins 1925 to 1963 proved strong with some very high value examples finding new homes. Two proof 1937 crowns sold for $18,000 and $20,000 respectively and a 1938 proof for $27,000 plus the 19.25% buyers commission added to every sale lot. A highlight of the pre-decimal section was a very sorry looking 1930 penny but with an amazing story behind it. $5,200 bought a genuine 1930 penny, holed at the top, worn by an Aussie digger through WWII around his neck with his dog tags, it was so named his “lucky penny”. It was worn by the vendors grandfather and was attributed to getting him through the war and home alive. It’s fair to say the new owner paid about $1,500 for the coin and the balance of $4,000 or so for the story. We’re sure it will sit beautifully in someone’s militaria collection.

We left the auction at the close of business and had a meal with our coin friends. Another great thing about attending this kind of auction is that it brings together collectors and dealers countrywide and also one dealer of note from New Zealand so a catch-up was always going to happen. A great meal, a good laugh and a chat about the ups and downs of coin collecting and the coin market made for an interesting evening out.

Day 4 -Thursday 10 July

The final session we attended dealt with world coins. We arrived at 9:30am and noticed immediately that the session was going to be quieter than the day before. There sure are very different collectors in the different auction sections and this morning began with ancients and Chinese coins. A large Chinese silver pattern dollar of 1907 in PCGS MS63 caught our eye with lovely iridescent blue toning and it certainly caught the eye of bidders. Bidding was fierce with bidders on the phone influencing the high prices achieved. The rest of the Chinese material sold strongly including a number of lots of medals and amulets that (apparently) had not seen the light of day since the early 20th century. Once the Chinese material concluded quite a few people left and things settled down to a steady pace for the remainder of the session. One thing to note was the lots of packeted world coins that were owned by numismatic author, William Craig. We’d viewed a few of these lots and they were not what we’d consider the highest quality, but all of them cleared and some fetched some strong prices.

Once the session had finished we were done and grabbed some lunch and made our way to the airport. The afternoon session was banknotes which we missed but take a look at the Downies Auction Report from Sterling & Currency.

The trip home worked out much better (clearly Murphy wasn’t watching). Through a series of happy coincidences we managed to get onto a flight that left two hours earlier than we had planned. This meant we arrived home early enough to stop for a leisurely Indian meal before walking through our front door at about 7pm. Trip Over!

What We’d Do Differently Next Time

We did our best to prepare fully for this auction including doing market research on coins we might be interested in. This proved to be incredibly useful while viewing. However, we hadn’t looked at the catalogue closely enough and we realised during certain sessions that there were other lots we really should have looked at. During the viewing itself we were careful to inspect every lot we had marked before hand but still somehow we managed to miss looking at a number of coins, and then miss them again when we worked through the lots to make sure we’d seen everything. Next time we’ll have to use a coloured highlighter to mark lots to ensure we don’t miss them. The final thing we did wrong (well not we, just one of us) was bid on something we hadn’t looked at. Never ever do that. Even though this time it worked out OK (one of the authors is snickering now) next time it could be a disaster.

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2014 AIATSIS Circulation 50 Cent

Australia 2014 Circulation 50 cent AIATSIS (image courtesy www.ramint.gov.au)

Australia 2014 Circulation 50 cent AIATSIS (image courtesy www.ramint.gov.au)

You will soon find a new circulation 50 cent in your change with the Royal Australian Mint this week releasing 2 million of the AIATSIS 50c coin celebrating 50 years of the institute dedicated to recognising and appreciating the values and culture of our indigenous people. The coin was officially launched last week at an event at Parliament House in Canberra attended by the Prime Minister in time for NAIDOC week July 6-13 2014. The coin seen above is for circulation and a coloured version has been minted for the collector market.

The reverse of the coin features part of the AIATSIS logo, a representation of a shield derived from the painted boomerang totem (fighting shield) of the Gu:na:ni (Kunjen) people from the Mitchell River region of the Gulf of Carpentaria and a piece in the AIATSIS collection of indigenous treasures the institute cares for. The design bears 2 boomerangs with circles, lines and dots. The portrait of Queen Elizabeth II is depicted on the obverse by Ian Rank-Broadley.

AIATSIS, the Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies is an internationally recognised institute celebrating it’s 50th year. Having such a coin in circulation hopes to remind those as they receive one in change of the culture and contributions of Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders to the country and Australian society.

2 million is a very small number of coins issued for circulation and finding one in change or from the bank is the only way to obtain one of these non-coloured circulation fifty cent coins.

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Australian 2 Dollar Errors

  • Coin 1 : Die Adjustment Strike $2 Coin

One of the great features of our new blogging engine is the ability to have slideshows like the one above. This one shows four great errors of what is the “ugly duckling” of decimal coins, the $2 coin. The humble 2 dollar is by far the least popular decimal coin to collect, it has no real “key date” and until the recent release of the poppy remembrance $2 and the purple coloured $2 coins it held little interest to the general public. One great thing about the lack of popularity of the coin is that you can find really neat $2 error coins selling for what amounts to a bargain. Each of the coins in the above slideshow is a great example of the type of error, and being on $2 coins they are particularly scarce and yet, still quite affordable.

Coin 1 – Die Adjustment Strike $2 Coin – 1999-2006

This is a great example of a die adjustment strike which is basically a coin that has been struck with minimal pressure during a period of setup of the coin press. Sometimes these types of strikes occur due to press malfunction causing the coin to again, be struck with minimal pressure. If you look carefully at both sides of the coin you’ll note that the barest trace of a coin design is present in the middle of each side. In fact, the design is so slight that this very coin sat in our collection as a $2 blank for years until we examined it closely and it revealed it’s true identity. Examination of the design reveals the obverse is the Ian Rank-Broadley portrait of Queen Elizabeth II which dates the coin from 1999 onward. The coin itself was purchased in 2006 so this limits the date possibilities to 1999 to 2006.

More about Die Adjustment Strikes

Coin 2 – Broadstruck $2 Coin – 2007

Broadstruck coins are probably one of the most common error coins (other than clipped planchet coins) but to find them in this condition is very unusual. This one is struck very centrally and has spread out nicely with clear metal flow outwards at the edges and fishtailing on most of the lettering. It’s dated 2007 but the date is largely obscured by the striking error. The only unfortunate problem with the coin is the damage to the obverse which was almost certainly done by a press operator to remove it from the press as it got stuck during the minting process. This is fairly common occurrence on broadstrikes.

More about the Broadstruck Coin Error

Coin 3 – Curved Clipped Planchet $2 Coin – 1988-1998

We haven’t seen many clipped planchet $2 coin errors, but the two that we have seen have been just like this one, in beautiful gem condition with a large amount of the coin missing. One can only speculate that the coin caused problems when it was rolled and was removed from circulation very early in it’s life or was taken directly from a mint roll, explaining the exemplary condition. Note the beautiful fishtailing on the LI of Australia on the obverse and the rounded rim near the edges of the clipped region. Both of these are signs of a genuine clipped planchet error. We can only date this coin to an 11 year period because the date is missing but the Maklouf portrait of the Queen on it dates it to the 1988 to 1998 period. It might have been possible to narrow this period down a little because two dollar coins in 1988 and 1989 bore the initials of Horst Hahne on the reverse but this area is missing from the coin too. So 1988 to 1998 is as close as we can get.

More about the Curved Clipped Planchet Error

Coin 4 – Double Struck $2 Coin – 2009

This coin is an old favourite of ours, a double struck 2 dollar coin of 2009. This type of error happens when a coin is struck once, is only partially ejected from the coining press, and then is struck again. This one has the second strike offset by about 40% and is a nice coin because the date of both strikes is visible. For some reason there’s a few 2008 and 2009 double struck $2 coins around and new ones still appear on the market from time to time and fetch about $1000 or a bit more. This might sound like a lot but the only double struck $1 coin we’re aware of sold for well over $2000 making this two dollar error a bargain in comparison.

More about Double Struck $2 Coins

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2014 Mob of Roos Dollar Rolls

Well it looks like the latest HOT product that is stirring up a feeding frenzy on eBay are the 2014 Mob of Roos Dollar rolls that we mentioned in this entry. Dealers could buy the rolls at face value at various RAM product launches and now that they have reached the secondary market the price has soared on the expectation of a limited release of this type of roll. The rolls are selling for $120+ on eBay right now (3 July 2014) and some are nearly reaching $140 in auctions. One enterprising member of the Australian Coin Forum contacted the RAM directly about how the rolls were made and what the numbers released were. Here’s the answer he got:

The Royal Australian Mint did roll these coins in-house and made them available to attendees on the basis that they would be able to pay and take them upon participation in the forums.

The Contact Centre staff said you also rang to ask how many rolled coins were produced. The Royal Australian Mint prepared a sufficient amount to meet the forecasted demand. The final amount can’t be disclosed as this number may vary depending on final demand.

Regards

Customer Service Team
Royal Australian Mint

There’s two things of interest here. First, the RAM did actually roll the coins themselves which they did not do with their last official roll releases. And second, the number of rolls released could increase to meet forecasted demand. And I strongly suspect that once the RAM and their dealers catch a whiff of the heat in the secondary market for these rolls that demand will certainly increase and the RAM will roll more. I advise caution before spending up big on these rolls because the “limited” release is very likely to become much less limited very soon.

Update 20 July 2014

In the last couple of weeks the number of these rolls available via the primary market (that is, direct from dealers) has increased considerably. They have been available in numbers from big dealers like Downies Australia for $36.50 per roll and as we write this we are aware of one seller who has 20 rolls available for sale at $40 each. A quick browse around eBay shows rolls available as BINs (buy it now) for anywhere between $45 and $60. Our previous advice to not spend up big on these rolls (when they were getting $120+ per roll) has proven to be exactly accurate as the rolls are now available at 1/2 to 1/3 of the peak prices. They may be worth accumulating long term (think in terms of years) at $40-$50 a roll but we wouldn’t advise spending any more than that on them while supplies appear relatively plentiful.

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Australian 200 Dollar Coins

In 1980 the Royal Australian Mint (RAM) released what was to be the first Australian 200 dollar coin. Minted from 22 carat (91.67%) gold and weighing 10 grams each coin contained 0.2947 of an ounce of pure gold. In 1980 the coin was released with the portrait of Queen Elizabeth on the obverse and the image of a koala sitting in a tree sculpted by Stuart Devlin on the reverse. Coins were released in uncirculated and proof finish and the issue price was $240 for the UNC coin while the proof coin would have set you back $295. The Mint continued to make the koala gold $200 coins each year until 1986, but in 1985 the portrait of the Queen changed from the work of Arnold Machin to that of Raphael Maklouf. Issue prices of the coins varied slightly from year to year based on the current bullion prices.

Australia 1983 $200 Koala Gold Coin

Australia 1983 $200 Koala Gold Coin

Given the excellent sales of the 1980 koala 200 gold coin (257,507 minted) the RAM thought it was onto a good thing and followed it up immediately in 1981 with another design, this time commemorating the royal wedding of Charles and Diana. Again, this coin was released in proof and uncirculated finishes, available for $240 each and there ended up being around 160,000 of the Charles and Diana 200 dollar gold coins minted. 1982 came, and along with it another excuse for the RAM to mint another commemorative 200 dollar gold coin, this time celebrating the Brisbane Commonwealth Games. This coin was $210 in uncirculated finish (77,206 mintage) and for some reason a lot more expensive in proof at $350 (30,032 mintage).

The Commonwealth Games $200 coin was the last new design until 1987, when Australia’s bicentenary (1988) was approaching. The 1987 $200 gold coin design still bore the Maklouf portrait of the Queen, while the reverse showed a portrait of Arthur Phillip and commemorated the 200th anniversary of the departure of the first fleet from Britain to Australia. Mintage of this coin was considerably less than the previous designs, with just a bit more than 40,000 of the proof and uncirculated finish coins minted. Of course, in 1988 another coin was released recognising the 200th anniversary of the arrival of the first fleet in Australia at Sydney Cove, 11,000 of these were minted in uncirculated condition and 20,000 in proof. The 1988 design was the last commemorative 200 dollar gold coin design released, and in 1989 the RAM changed tack completely with the designs.

Australia 1982 $200 Commonwealth Games Coin

Australia 1982 $200 Commonwealth Games Coin

The 1989 coin showed a frilled neck lizard, and perhaps as a marketing exercise was successful in reviving interest in the gold coin series as the mintage went back up to just over 40,000 in total for the proof and uncirculated coins. The RAM settled on an issue price of $242 for the uncirculated coin and $298 for the proof coin, prices it kept until the 200 dollar coins ceased production in 1994. 1990 through to 1994 saw a succession of wildlife themed reverse designs for the coins, with 1990 seeing a platypus, 1991 an emu, 1992 an echidna, 1993 a squirrel glider (the same animal seen on Australian 1 cent coins) and finally in 1994, a Tasmanian devil. Mintages dwindled each year as interest in the series declined and in 1993 and 1994 not even 10,000 of the proof and UNC coins were minted.

So, that’s the background to the Australian 200 dollar coins series, let’s get onto what they are worth today. Well, unfortunately NONE of the coins hold any collector value at all above the gold value that they contain. That’s right, it doesn’t matter what year, what design, or whether it’s a proof or uncirculated coin, the value is determined ENTIRELY by the gold bullion value. So, the 10 grams of 22 carat gold each coin contains comprises ALL the value of the coins. So, what’s the gold value of a 200 dollar coin today? Well we can tell you right now as you read this article, that an Australian $200 dollar gold coin is worth AU$0.00 (US$0.00). That value is determined from the current gold price on Currency Layer and is updated every 10 minutes or so. Typically if you want to sell your coin to a coin dealer you might get slightly under this value. If you take the do it yourself path and sell your coin on eBay you might get a bit more than this value BUT you’ll have to pay eBay their fee which could be anywhere from 5% to 10% of the final sale price.

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Found! Just A Million 2014 Circulation Mob of Roos Dollar Coins to be Minted

Australia 2014 Dollar Mob of Roos

Australia 2014 Dollar Mob of Roos

It’s getting late in the year and one had assumed we wouldn’t see a 2014 issue of the mob of roos dollar coin in circulation. After the release of 23 million Anzac centenary commemorative dollars it seemed clear that was what you’d be finding in your change. In a stroke of cunning the Royal Australian Mint have in fact struck a million mob of roos dollar coins for circulation. This will be the only way to find the standard mob of roos struck on the aluminium bronze planchet and will be the lowest mintage circulating Australian dollar coin to date. This year, for the 30th anniversary of the dollar coin many versions of the Stuart Devlin design 5 kangaroos coin have been produced, but this is the first we’ve seen of the basic standard coin. In another twist to the story the Mint held their 2015 product launch last week in Sydney and Melbourne where they offered these circulation MOR $1’s to dealers for face value as an enticement to attend the event. These coins were rolled in plain brown paper with red writing “ONE DOLLAR $20”, not in RAM wrappered paper as we usually see genuine RAM rolls packaged but also not in identifiable security company paper. I’m yet to find an Anzac centenary dollar in my change so no doubt I’ll be waiting a long time to pickup one of these million kangaroo dollars. It’s not known where they’ll be distributed but I’d imagine one particular area of Australia will be hit hard with the remaining coins.

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Welcome to the NEW Australian Coin Collecting Blog

We’ve spent the whole day rolling out a new design for the blog as well as implementing an entirely new site engine. This will allow us to post bigger images, create new tools, and generally provide you with the coin collecting information you want in a more attractive and easier to read fashion -particularly when using a mobile device. We’re not moving all of the content from the old blog to this new one right now but will move a lot of it over as time permits. The old blog content is still available though, you can find what you want via the search box at the top right.

If you find anything that isn’t working (such as broken links or calculators) please let us know.

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Victoria Cross $10 Coin Ballot Success

Those of you who entered the Royal Australian Mint ballot for the For Valour Victoria Cross Ten Dollar coin should now know if you were successful and hold the new release in your hand. If you weren’t successful then you should have received confirmation and be on the waiting list for available coins if they aren’t purchased by their selected ballot winner.

How long to hold onto such a coin is the biggest question given it’s popularity. I’ll go so far as to say this ballot is the most successful the RAM has run in recent times with interest from coin collectors, military enthusiasts far and wide and those who want to share in the Anzac centenary experience. From a small entry sample size of 3 in my own extended family we were successful in purchasing just one coin which agrees with the Mints statistics that they received 13,000 ballot entries for a coin with a 5,000 mintage.

For an outlay of $112 I was able to purchase one of these coins, and there was never a question that I would turn down the offer if given. I eagerly opened the box hoping with fingers crossed that I had received certificate number 100 (there are 100 VC recipients, their names on the coin). It wasn’t to be, the coin, a stunning antiqued bronze beauty eagerly awaiting being held, loose in the box. Without a capsule the coin is asking to be held which is the idea behind it’s manufacture. It’s antiqued bronze finish and large medallion-like size intended to be a tactile experience for collectors, light handling not likely to affect the finish -just like you’d hold a Victoria Cross medal itself.

Should I hold onto this new coin is the next BIG question. A ten dollar coin doesn’t, at all, fit into what I collect and they have proved poor investment purchases in the past. Many $10 silver decimal issues are generally traded well below their issue price at their silver content and don’t hold a numismatic value. It’s the theme here that has added to the success of this coin. Currently sales on auction site eBay see this coin selling for upwards of $600 with other website dealers allowing me to add 10 of these to my shopping cart at $699.99 (presumably that’s an error and they don’t have that kind of stock). You’d think though that once the excitement and hype has settled down so too will the price but time will only tell. This has been a good investment so far.

Australia 2014 $10 Victoria Cross Ballot Coin

Australia 2014 $10 Victoria Cross Ballot Coin

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Value of Australian 50 Cent Coins 2014

It’s been five years since we wrote our original 50 cent value article and 2 years since we wrote the 2012 update. We thought it was time to take a look at the latest catalogue values of our Aussie 50c coins and see how the values have changed since we first looked at them.

We’ve taken the values of these coins from the 2014 edition of the Pocket Guide to Australian Coins and Banknotes written by Greg McDonald. The values are for pristine uncirculated examples of the coins. They are also what you can expect to pay for the coins from a coin dealer rather than what you can expect to sell them for. Expect half catalogue value (at most) if you’re trying to sell these coins to a coin dealer (they have to make a profit) and don’t be surprised if you just get offered face value (or fifty cents). If you’ve got some collectable 50 cent coins you want to sell then you might actually be better off doing it yourself via an online auction site like eBay.

  • 1970 Captain Cook Bicentenary, mintage: 16,548,100, $7.00
  • 1977 Silver Jubilee, mintage: 25,067,000, $4.00
  • 1981 Royal Wedding, mintage: 20,000,000, $6.00
  • 1982 Commonwealth Games, mintage: 23,287,000, $4.00
  • 1988 First Fleet Bicentenary, mintage: 8,990,800, $10.00
  • 1991 Decimal Anniversary, mintage: 4,704,400, $10.00
  • 1994 Year of the Family (narrow date), mintage: 20,830,800, $18.00
  • 1994 Year of the Family (wide date), mintage: 20,830,800, $12.00
  • 1995 Weary Dunlop, mintage: 15,869,200, $7.00
  • 1998 Bass and Flinders, mintage: 22,426,000, $7.00
  • 2000 Year 2000 Millennium, mintage: 16,630,000, $7.00

When we compare those values to the original article we wrote in 2009 and the last one we wrote in 2012 there’s only two values (yes, two) that have changed. The 1988 First Fleet 50c has dropped in value by $5. And the 1994 Narrow Date Year of the Family 50 cent has increased in value by $6. So we’ve got a total increase in value in 5 years of $1 for that entire list of 50 cent coins. A thrilling return on investment that is not!

In the last update of this article we expanded it to include some more recent coins than the original article covered. Here’s those coins again along with their current CV’s. Note, again, that these values are for uncirculated coins only rather than the ones you might find in your change. I’ve also adjusted some of the mintages of the Centenary of Federation coins based on our own research into mintage figures. You should take a look at our Federation coins page for more information on each coin.

  • 2001 Centenary of Federation, mintage: 43,149,600, $4.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation NSW, mintage: 3,042,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation ACT, mintage: 2,000,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation QLD, mintage: 2,320,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation VIC, mintage: 2,000,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation Norfolk Island, mintage: 2,000,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation NT, mintage: 2,000,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation WA, mintage: 2,000,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation SA, mintage: 2,400,000, $6.00
  • 2001 Centenary of Federation TAS, mintage: 2,106,006, $6.00
  • 2002 Year of the Outback, mintage: 11,507,000, $6.00
  • 2003 Australia’s Volunteers, mintage: 13,927,000, $4.00
  • 2004 Student Design, mintage: 10,200,000, $3.00
  • 2005 60th Anniversary of WW2, mintage: 20,719,000, $3.00

There’s a been a bit of movement in the coins in this list since we looked at them in 2012. The 2001 Centenary of Federation (Australia) coin has dropped in value by $1, and the ACT, Norfolk Island, and South Australian Federation coins have all increased in value by $2. Slightly better returns there and given that the Centenary of Federation 50 cent coins can be found in change still you could do worse than noodle through bags of coins from your bank to try to put together full sets. They’ll certainly be worth more than face value.

At the suggestion of one reader we’ve decided to include a couple of standard design coat of arms 50 cent coins in this article. These are the 1985 and 1993 coins, both released into circulation with a mintage of a million or a bit less, which is a low mintage for any circulation decimal coin.

  • 1985 Coat of Arms 50 cent, mintage: 1,000,000, $13.00
  • 1993 Coat of Arms 50 cent, mintage: 982,800, $22.00

In 2009 the 1985 50 cent was valued at $13 and 2012 the same. Similarly the 1993 coat of arms 50 cent has been valued at $22.00 since 2009. So not a lot of investment return there either. However, given that the values are quite high there might be some potential for resale if you happen to find one of these coins in better condition (say EF or better) from circulation.

There’s one last 50 cent coin that we look at each time we write these articles. The 1966 round 50 cent, which is 80% silver and contains about 1/3 of an ounce of the precious metal. In our last update in 2012 silver was at AU$27.50 an ounce and each round 50 was worth approximately $9.20 in silver. Right now silver is at AU$22.20 an ounce and each 50 cent round is worth AU$7.40. So, if you bought up big on round 50c back in mid 2012 you’re down about 20% on your investment. But if it cheers you up any back in 2011 when silver prices peaked at about AU$45 per ounce each round 50 was worth $15 and you would have lost more than 50% of your investment if you still held them today. Ouch.

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I’ve found an Australian 1930 Penny, Is it Real or Fake?

1930 Penny Real or Fake?

1930 Penny Real or Fake?

Even if you’re not a coin collector the Australian 1930 penny is the one you’ll know about. It’s the most famous Australian pre-decimal coin and as such is the most talked about, the most sought and the most faked coin. Find a 1930 penny and your heart will skip a beat, but the likelihood that it’s real is very small. Given the value of a real 1930 penny is upwards of $15,000 in any condition it’s one that you’re going to want to authenticate if you find a 1930 penny in Grandpas top drawer.

If you’ve found a 1930 penny and are wondering it’s value, first you’ll have to determine if it is real. Your newly found 1930 penny may be one of 2 things (well, 3 if it’s real!), it will commonly be a forgery or an altered date penny.

Forgeries, counterfeits, fake and copy coins are in their plenty in Australian penny collections as they are easily obtained. Even the British penny is used in its place in many collections so there isn’t a glaring vacant space. A copied coin should be marked ‘copy’ but is usually not. Fake 1930 pennies usually stand out amongst the rest as they are often poor quality forgeries with details that just look plain wrong to the eye when studied next to a real Aussie penny. Fake 1930 pennies often have bright lustre that is a tell-tale sign that it’s a recent copy.

A Real Penny, Sadly Not a Real 1930 Penny

A Real Penny, Sadly Not a Real 1930 Penny

In the past, those with the intent to deceive have taken an Australian penny from another year and changed the date to make it appear as a 1930 coin. Whilst this isn’t an offense, it becomes so when this coin is attempted to be passed off as a real 1930 penny. This type of coin is called an ‘altered date’ penny. Now this altered date type is the only 1930 penny I’ll ever be able to afford and it comes with a letter from the Royal Australian Mint advising as such. A collector in the past sought advice from the experts, which the Mint used to do for a fee, and appraised the coin to determine if it were genuine. The letter of advice is seen below.

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